In this episode of Independent Conversations, historians Amity Shlaes and David Beito discuss FDR's policies of Japanese internment, spying on Americans, and violations of free speech and reveal a troubling portrait of FDR much different from the standard orthodoxy found in today’s historical studies.

Buy the book The New Deal’s War on the Bill of Rights: The Untold Story of FDR’s Concentration Camps, Censorship, and Mass Surveillance by David T. Beito.